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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jul 30, 2011 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: long-term listening strategies

You have not offended me. We are here to discuss the music of the Grateful Dead. The fact that we all don't always agree only makes this discussion more stimulating. Like mathematics, there is always going to more for us to learn about this music, no matter how much we study.

I like the 10/27/28 performance of Jack Straw solely for the extended instrumental break starting at 3:35 (on the most recent Charlie Miller transfer) and lasting a full 2 minutes. Certainly not the tightest rendition (with some sketchy vocals and a somewhat annoying Brent keyboard tone), it is the most jammed out Jack Straw that I am familiar with...

I'm afraid that all the tea in China is not going to convince me that a 1987 performance can hold a candle to it, regardless of what might be a high energy level and an intense crowd reaction. This in spite of the fact that I attended that show.

There are certainly multiple criteria with which to evaluate a performance of Jack Straw. Only one of which is instrumental creativity, which I put at a premium.

If I had to choose the tightest, most aesthetically beautiful performance, with perhaps the most emotive interpretation, I dont think any rendition would trump the Jack Straw in Paris on 5/3/72. I think this will become apparent when the Europe '72 box is released in September and we can hear the song as it was played that night (without the vocal over-dubs)...

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Jul 30, 2011 4:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: long-term listening strategies

Right on.

Its now obvious we are looking for different things. And from your perspective, it is certainly a great Jack Straw.

Though, what is it about the late 80's that you don't like? The boys were certainly on (at least during this Jstraw), and for me, thats typically all it takes.

Early Jack Straws... I like them but from what I look for in a Jack Straw, they usually don't have it, the ending jam is much shorter and rarely if ever is climatic. I will say that I enjoy the vocals much more. They certainly possess a unique emotion that is never seen again after the hiatus. My favorite pre-hiatus version is from DP 31. I will take a listen or three to your 72 suggestion.

Thanks for the well thought out reply